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Knight Templar by TD-Vice Knight Templar by TD-Vice
Despite the deletion of the picture, I reupload it, because the dA staff had given me no clear answer as to why a simple portrait is considered Hate Art.

In case that the admins will find the re-upload of the artwork a bannable offense, I'm ready to engage in CONSTRUCTIVE discussion of why it is so horrible.

And yes, I consider Breivik a hero and share his viewpoint on what he did. So what? It's my opinion, and you can't guess it by artwork alone. I can consider a hero anyone who I want - that doesn't qualify as hate speech either.

He called himself a Knight Templar, so that's the naming of the pic.
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:iconvoidstalker23:
VoidStalker23 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Didn't you use to dress up as a girl, TD? I seem to remember the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums having a page for you.
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Defelial Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
quite brave even tho i dont support zionists like breivik, i also love your art
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AlvynSharp Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014
Considering Breivik is an Israel supporter, I would not support him.
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Sparda81 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
He has 2 taclights. Just putting that out there.
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MJMSTUDIOS2020 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
YAY A norway massacre artwork. =)
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ivica12 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
suport from bosnien  croats , Breivik is a hero..
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RonChocolate Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
Too be honest. They need too make a movie of this guy. I know he was quite the sick man. But seriously, They did a movie about the Nokas Robbery. Why not this guy aswell?
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PhaidrosthePeep Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014
A great picture of a vile man.  

Still, he put his convictions into action, while most of addled masses can not bother to do more than rant on the internet.

And if DA wants to delete it for Hate Art, then they better have a good argumentation, not just "çause we say so". Besides, a lot of the "Patriotic" themed art seems to direct hate at someone else too.
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EoTIndustries Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
The guy can draw and paint whatever the fuck he wants. If you don't like it fuck off.
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Neetsfagging322297 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2013
"Stop right there, cultural-marxist scum!"
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arcanor23 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I regret that police didn't kill him :( (Sad)
I hope he will burn in hell
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:iconroxthesox:
Roxthesox Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What was his motivation for shooting up the joint again?
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:iconebolabearvomit:
EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
Evil children allow dirty Muslims and outsiders to ruin society.
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Roxthesox Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Right.. Right.
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
Oh yeah, he was also supposed become national leader after the 'uprising'. You know, because he's such a  hero.
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motor-cunt Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, at least the art is good :)
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davethesoldier Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
What the fuck do havve in your tiny miserable brain? Dust? Shit or what !? That thing killed innocent kids! 

THAT THING, THIS "PAINTING",YOU AND YOUR EXISTENS IS A SHAME FOR PEOPLE, BUT MOCH MORE FOR THOSE WHO DIED THAT DAY ! ! !
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NoizzMarine Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013
If geeks are 16-20 years old, ready to take the place of their fathers in their offices and continue their policy of destroying Norway, innocent children, I am a dancer.
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davethesoldier Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013
let me clear something, i hate too comunists and all that shit! But murder for no reason them was completly unecessary
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:icontd-vice:
TD-Vice Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I dont ascribe to the idea of "innocence", so good luck ranting at me) I don't give a damn)
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davethesoldier Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
I don't give a dmn fuck what you think!
I just really hope FOR YOU never to meet you, and if that heppends you really should start to run as fast as you can, because i will dismember you alive :) .
son of a bitch!
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EBSW0820-e Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
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:icondavethesoldier:
davethesoldier Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
Come on, it's obvious that our never put your hands at someone. You have no idea how many persons with that shit in the head i punched, even just for fun. 'cause they are so retarded, that it is not possible just talk to them or even look at.
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EBSW0820-e Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
You wouldn't touch a hair on his head. You're the classic internet tough guy. Give it a rest, little boy.
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:icondavethesoldier:
davethesoldier Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
you are 32 years old, but still with both hands on your dick heh? I don't need tips from people like you.
Sooner or later you will learn that some kind of persons just need too be punched. 
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EBSW0820-e Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014
Speaking of which, how much was your hospital bill?

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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Um, no? Maybe in your little fantasy, but I mean, yelling death threats at people over the internet is pretty unimpressive. Go play somewhere else, kid.
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davethesoldier Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
:) thing, i'm not yelling, im just say what would heppend. Dismember nazis is one of my lives dreams.

ps. do you really think you and your kind are to call people, person, human,...?
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Wolfeh12 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
you must have weird dreams.
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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Of course not. We are overhuman, ubermensch) While you are a human-shaped excrement.
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davethesoldier Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
interesting thought, for someone who stands at a very redicolous position besize the rest of the peoples opinion, but don't worry sometimes stupidity and ignorance may be forgiven :).

ps: is written Übermensch
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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not PS. It's written ridIculous.

Woah, you're pretty talkative for an excrement. Pity all you can talk about from your experience, is the ass you crawled out of.
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:icondavethesoldier:
davethesoldier Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
GO AND FUCK YOURSELF COCK SUCKING SON OF A BICHT !!!
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zero-cs Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
umad faggot
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DeinFeindbild Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
What's wrong with oral sex?
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SlamJamSam Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I don't know too much 'bout the situation but..


Never had a good look for people doing "Shootings" like these.


Might be because I live in a peaceful place.

Oh we still get shootings, but.. mostly in streets and schools, not a whole "massacre" like this guy did, as what I've heard.


I just don't know what's so Heroic about him.


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someguy231 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
He did kill innocents, but I want that rifle so bad.
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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really think that the whole "innocents" thing becomes really redundant
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Xsuprio Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
How about "defenseless"? Or "unarmed"?

I can understand the fear of losing your country's heritage. I can understand thinking your race is more dominant than others. I can understand being incredibly frustrated and feel you're pushed to desperate measures.
What I don't understand is, how someone is able to line up their sights time and time again on defenseless children, make bullets rip through their bodies and end them.

In the description above you say "Breivik is your hero and that's your opinion". Does someone who disagrees with your viewpoints have the right to silence you permanently? To end your life at any moment?
You think those kids cannot be called innocent? Who can we call innocent? Is anyone safe from being gunned down in cold blood because of a difference of opinion?
In a world of Breiviks... will your kids come home from camp?
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Wolfeh12 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
This guy ^. Right up above me. Look at that! Constructive criticizing.
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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're making the same argument that had been made before, and I already answered to it and presented a counterargument.

First off, people who disagree with my viewpoint DO have the right to silence me permanents. It can be broke down to 3 components. Component A: yes, I stretch the same reality to myself too. A person has all the right to try and kill me, but that wouldn't mean that I am going to stand there and allow it to happen. They have the right to attempt it, I have the right to thwart that attempt. But yes, they have that freedom.

Component B: unlike me, they have an unspoken ENCOURAGEMENT of the current society to do so. You really shouldn't try this argument with me, because the current societal ideology ENCOURAGES people to harm right-wingers, national-socialists and nationalists. Every movie, book and videogame is saying KILLING NAZIS IS GOOD AND FUN, AND THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, FOLKS! And if I were killed, just for my views, I wouldn't be exonerated and professed "innocent", or seen something more than a Nazi (an artist or journalist, that I am) - no, my murderers would be justified, applauded and of course, given a shorter sentence. Me, on the other hand,  well, the most vocal people would be pissing and dancing on my grave and going "yay, that's what you should do to Nazis!".

Component C - I actually live in a country where such an outcome is possible, and I experienced violence, physical violence directed at me. So it is a real prospect. But, that doesn't stop me from believing what I believe in, all of it. Because it is all part of human nature.

To answer you question noone can be called innocent, because innocence is a religious term and an abstract concept that isn't derived from objective reality. Noone is safe, until we have more or less homogenous societites with our current level of technological development.

Hitlerjugend didn't come back home from WW2. Don't see you crying for them. And these kids that were killed, were completely analogous to Hitlerjugend - just on the other side of the fence. That is how allies gunned the German kids down. And you can understand such soldiers - untill you see Arab kids cutting head off prisoners, or trying to shoot guns at soldiers, it's hard to imagine, but kid doesn't equal defenceless.
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Xsuprio Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Please read this with a calm voice in mind. I am not trying to pick a fight.

You're sketching a world where everyone should always be armed at any age and ready to die at any time. That's terrifying.

Please don't say "you shouldn't try this with me" like I'm trying to trick you. I'm trying to converse with you.
I would actually agree that through movies, books and such, Hitler's soldiers are portrayed as the army of the devil. They were people. And it shouldn't be entertainment to watch them die. When I watch a documentary about WWII and it shows killed German soldiers or the A-bombs dropping, it is without glee, I assure you. War is ugly and all sides can be accused of horrible acts. Then and now.

Justice should be equal to all. If you were harmed or killed, unprovoked, because of your beliefs, the culprit should get equal punishment as someone who inflicts harm on another person for any other reason than self defense. And I do not wish harm to come to you, no matter what your beliefs. If you were attacked without cause, that is wrong and I´m sorry it happened.

You don´t see me crying over Hitlerjugend? What are you saying? If anyone commented "glad those Hitlerjugend were killed", I would be equally worried by the lack of insight and respect for young life. Why do you presume I take delight in seeing people hurt just because they think differently from me?

Tell me, Torture... what is it you really love? Your race? Your country? Your superior health and well being? Your vision of what the future should be like?
Or do you simply love violence? Your name, your gallery, your icon. All so angry. So hostile. So violent.
Fair enough if you do love violence. But if your country, your continent, the world even, were in an ideal state in your opinion... would you be at peace? Or will there always be enemies to your ideals?
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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And Im not fighting you either. You asked me a question, I am merely answering it.

No. Im not sketching a world were everyone is armed and ready to die. Im sketching a world where easily predicted CONSEQUENCES to previously done ACTIONS dont come to people as a complete surprise and moral sin. Thats the world where I live in - a world of consequences and responsibility and personal conviction.

Well, here is where your argument falters. You say "if I were harmed UNPROVOKED", "IF i were attacked without CAUSE", then its wrong. But if we take this down the logical course, your words mean that there are situations where harm and violence is dealt justly and accordingly, because of the victims own actions. Like say, when the American media, instead of offering condolences to the victims of the Domodedovo airport bombing (that was in Russia) and condemning the terrorist act as it usually done, begam speculating if those Russian civilians got what was coming to them from the "rebels", because the terrorist were sooo poor and oppressed and discriminared against by the Russian government. See, it doesnt matter that people died - there was a "cause".

But then, using your logic, I can safely say that yes, they provoked Breivik, his victims, they were attacked with a cause. And it makes it stomacheable, doesnt it?

Of course, you can argue what constitutes a cause. But then the line would be very fluid. Some say, want to kill me simply for my views. Some - for my presumed actions. So for what human activity is violence and death a valid retribution? Im sure many people have many answers to that question, and Im offering just one of them.


But thats what people always say, didnt you know?

I love everything. I love my country, nation, race, my people and violence. See, I dont have a delusion of reaching an ideal state of being for anyone. I believe that there is no final destination, no peace, but a perpetual struggle that serves the progress of my people. Violence is a tool to ensure that this process does not stop.
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Xsuprio Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Well... I've read some of the other conversations you've had. And the funny thing is, I understand and, as you can tell from my last reply, even agree on some points. But we'll remain at odds. Specially when it comes to violence and the justification thereof.

Nevertheless, I'm going to end it here. This back and forth replying, is a less than perfect way to communicate and hideously time consuming.

Thank you for a civil conversation. Perhaps the pen is mightier than the sword? Little joke
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TD-Vice Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, very nice of you not even to try to argue what I said when I showed you examples of the unsavory double standard your logic implies)
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someguy231 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I can honestly care less who he killed, but that rifle, It's got everything you need to survive for almost any situation. Though I do believe it's quite redundant to have two flashlights, unless one of them dies out. Fuck, I just countered what I said there. 

Off topic: Have you ever heard of Cattle Decapitation?
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jproteus Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
You're a great artist. You have really captured how sad and pathetic this man is.
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SlamJamSam Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Student Digital Artist
^
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Helijas Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013
From my view-point Breivik did astonishing job, but before hating me just think about he could kill dozen random people in Oslo by bombing or other stuff. Instead he chose to kill kids who'd become future Norwegian social party members. It sounds anti-moral but he wanted to help by removing future leaders who are afraid to do anything in front being blamed by others. Maybe after some years we'll thank to him who showed that there's is chance to have safe future.
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Poke-Max Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Hey, let's kill every kid ever! A few will obviously become bad people, so why take our chances?

NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT, what kind of solution is that? Those children might have colonized the moon, discovered a treatment for cancer,

 

And what "safe future" are you talking about? The one where people shoot kids on a hunch? Where mass killings are the norm? Yeah, totally safe!

 

Your sorry attempt at rationalizing this man's actions was a complete flop.

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