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Despite the deletion of the picture, I reupload it, because the dA staff had given me no clear answer as to why a simple portrait is considered Hate Art.
In case that the admins will find the re-upload of the artwork a bannable offense, I'm ready to engage in CONSTRUCTIVE discussion of why it is so horrible.
And yes, I consider Breivik a hero and share his viewpoint on what he did. So what? It's my opinion, and you can't guess it by artwork alone. I can consider a hero anyone who I want - that doesn't qualify as hate speech either.
He called himself a Knight Templar, so that's the naming of the pic.
In case that the admins will find the re-upload of the artwork a bannable offense, I'm ready to engage in CONSTRUCTIVE discussion of why it is so horrible.
And yes, I consider Breivik a hero and share his viewpoint on what he did. So what? It's my opinion, and you can't guess it by artwork alone. I can consider a hero anyone who I want - that doesn't qualify as hate speech either.
He called himself a Knight Templar, so that's the naming of the pic.
I hope he will burn in hell
you are 32 years old, but still with both hands on your dick heh? I don't need tips from people like you.
Sooner or later you will learn that some kind of persons just need too be punched.
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I can understand the fear of losing your country's heritage. I can understand thinking your race is more dominant than others. I can understand being incredibly frustrated and feel you're pushed to desperate measures.
What I don't understand is, how someone is able to line up their sights time and time again on defenseless children, make bullets rip through their bodies and end them.
In the description above you say "Breivik is your hero and that's your opinion". Does someone who disagrees with your viewpoints have the right to silence you permanently? To end your life at any moment?
You think those kids cannot be called innocent? Who can we call innocent? Is anyone safe from being gunned down in cold blood because of a difference of opinion?
In a world of Breiviks... will your kids come home from camp?
First off, people who disagree with my viewpoint DO have the right to silence me permanents. It can be broke down to 3 components. Component A: yes, I stretch the same reality to myself too. A person has all the right to try and kill me, but that wouldn't mean that I am going to stand there and allow it to happen. They have the right to attempt it, I have the right to thwart that attempt. But yes, they have that freedom.
Component B: unlike me, they have an unspoken ENCOURAGEMENT of the current society to do so. You really shouldn't try this argument with me, because the current societal ideology ENCOURAGES people to harm right-wingers, national-socialists and nationalists. Every movie, book and videogame is saying KILLING NAZIS IS GOOD AND FUN, AND THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, FOLKS! And if I were killed, just for my views, I wouldn't be exonerated and professed "innocent", or seen something more than a Nazi (an artist or journalist, that I am) - no, my murderers would be justified, applauded and of course, given a shorter sentence. Me, on the other hand, well, the most vocal people would be pissing and dancing on my grave and going "yay, that's what you should do to Nazis!".
Component C - I actually live in a country where such an outcome is possible, and I experienced violence, physical violence directed at me. So it is a real prospect. But, that doesn't stop me from believing what I believe in, all of it. Because it is all part of human nature.
To answer you question noone can be called innocent, because innocence is a religious term and an abstract concept that isn't derived from objective reality. Noone is safe, until we have more or less homogenous societites with our current level of technological development.
Hitlerjugend didn't come back home from WW2. Don't see you crying for them. And these kids that were killed, were completely analogous to Hitlerjugend - just on the other side of the fence. That is how allies gunned the German kids down. And you can understand such soldiers - untill you see Arab kids cutting head off prisoners, or trying to shoot guns at soldiers, it's hard to imagine, but kid doesn't equal defenceless.
You're sketching a world where everyone should always be armed at any age and ready to die at any time. That's terrifying.
Please don't say "you shouldn't try this with me" like I'm trying to trick you. I'm trying to converse with you.
I would actually agree that through movies, books and such, Hitler's soldiers are portrayed as the army of the devil. They were people. And it shouldn't be entertainment to watch them die. When I watch a documentary about WWII and it shows killed German soldiers or the A-bombs dropping, it is without glee, I assure you. War is ugly and all sides can be accused of horrible acts. Then and now.
Justice should be equal to all. If you were harmed or killed, unprovoked, because of your beliefs, the culprit should get equal punishment as someone who inflicts harm on another person for any other reason than self defense. And I do not wish harm to come to you, no matter what your beliefs. If you were attacked without cause, that is wrong and I´m sorry it happened.
You don´t see me crying over Hitlerjugend? What are you saying? If anyone commented "glad those Hitlerjugend were killed", I would be equally worried by the lack of insight and respect for young life. Why do you presume I take delight in seeing people hurt just because they think differently from me?
Tell me, Torture... what is it you really love? Your race? Your country? Your superior health and well being? Your vision of what the future should be like?
Or do you simply love violence? Your name, your gallery, your icon. All so angry. So hostile. So violent.
Fair enough if you do love violence. But if your country, your continent, the world even, were in an ideal state in your opinion... would you be at peace? Or will there always be enemies to your ideals?
Nevertheless, I'm going to end it here. This back and forth replying, is a less than perfect way to communicate and hideously time consuming.
Thank you for a civil conversation. Perhaps the pen is mightier than the sword? Little joke
Hey, let's kill every kid ever! A few will obviously become bad people, so why take our chances?
NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT, what kind of solution is that? Those children might have colonized the moon, discovered a treatment for cancer,
And what "safe future" are you talking about? The one where people shoot kids on a hunch? Where mass killings are the norm? Yeah, totally safe!
Your sorry attempt at rationalizing this man's actions was a complete flop.